The Last Stand: Union City – Alpha 0.95

i haven’t played it yet (still loading), but whats the point of dull? lower noise or something?

It’s just a crappier variation of the base weapon.
- Con

holy beep 1000 pounds

Haha yeah, I’d advise against using the all weapons command. I’ve greatly increased the chance of finding weapons so you can test them by just finding them through drops.
- Con

QUestion what do i do about the 2 blokes in the first place?

Overall the game is great and its still an alpha. I only have one request. Can we have more ammo to work with? I run out of ammo to fast.

spent a billion yrs trying to choose what i want in my backpack. maybes u should turn weight off for short time?

hey con when the game is fully out is weapons going to be easily found or the rate is lower coz i dont want to spend tons of time finding just 1 or 2 guns/weapons

Huge improvement over the last one! I sent in a bug report, but it seems like when you select the chainsaw and put it in one of your weapon slots, the idle sound comes off until you change weapons.

Also, you can’t hit crawling zombies with the katana.

I LOVE it. I forget though, how do you clear out the game’s cache? I seem to keep finding the same weapons every time.

I swear, the chainsaw idle sound will be the death of me. I had massive trouble with it in LS2 as well.
- Con

awesome game con is it set in australia

Nah, mate.
- Con

hey con, does the custom stock weapons, add/decrease anything?

How does the ‘Custom Stock’ modifier affect the shotgun?

Dude love it!!! haha cant wait till the beta!!!!

Hey, I just noticed. If clothes have weight in game, but have no effect, why would people wear them? They will just decrease the amount of loot they can carry back to the camp/base.

Some clothing will have benefits, the rest is purely aesthetic.
- Con

Cons why is it when i played i got stuck in the game

ump45 uses 9mm ammo? why is that?

Cut and paste code.
- Con

Still has the settings menu up. I can’t press any buttons while the settings menu is up. (Its an issue with flash 10 on macs) Its not really your problem, but I just wanted to let you know I can’t play the alpha. Because I know deep down you care for the individual gamer.

One man is going strong.

Hmmm, that’s really odd man. I just tried it on my Mac Book Pro, running Chrome and the latest version of Flash and it’s fine. Got any links to info on the problem?
- Con

I bet someone is going to comment ‘erm zombie dogs get stuck on boxes’ and then con is going to rage and throw a computer monitor at their head ;p

Haha, I’m taking it easy this morning, on the laptop on the couch having a coffee and going over the 100 comments from overnight. Going to be hard to put me in a bad mood.
- Con

awesome

I hate to double post man, but I LOVE your taste in music.

I know other people are going to post this to death too, but a katana has a distinct curvature to it, and is a rather slender weapon, especially when compared to like, broadswords and long swords.

It’s my best friend’s work on the music, he’s got a great sense of what works for games and he knows what I like.

That’s what’s wrong with the katana, thanks! I was thinking something was off when I was drawing it.
- Con

this is awsome!!!!

awsome but sometimes when i enter rooms theres like a wierd lookin zombie either a regular zombie or cut in half zombie

The music is on?

It’s on by default, it’s very low at the moment. Volume controls to come.
- Con

I kill a zombie dog and a human arm pops out….xD

Hah!
- Con

Dogs kicks survivors ass! (not literally )
Maybe they were created using the old graphics but they really add a lot of adrenaline to the gameplay.

no bugs except the ump 45 has no sound but nothing big so far with game i think the final product will turn out perfect keep up the good work

Wow I thought you were done adding weapons but moar is bettar! Again, every update is better than the last and just gets everybody pumped for the game

Hey Con! I noticed the addition of the Armor Degradation feature is in now!… or… Was it a bug? Well when I was shooting one of the riot zombies with a helmet in the head, he would actually take damage but it was less than when I shot him on the leg.

Not a bug, no. Armored zombies now take heavily reduced damage from bullets, I’m working on the melee side of it at the moment.
- Con

amazing work yet again

thought the flashlight when using the knife and bat comes out of thin air like 1 or 2 feet in front of you. also with the knife his hand looks like hes handicapped.

THE MUSIC WAS AMAZING, although if you turn it off then on it doesn’t come back.

I’m sure all will be perty when game is released i can’t wait for betas

Wow, great Alpha, Con, the fire axe is awesome ._.

Can’t wait for the final version !

Ha, first weapon dropped from a zombie was a Spec. Op AK. That was grand.

I noticed that there was a higher chance of seeing zombies stuck on scenery, or just not moving. There were a few times that a torso zombie would be stuck in mid air between two normal ones. And even after the others died, it just would float there until shot.

Now, that normally would just be a “Ha, stupid zombie” moment. Yet in that storage room, the same thing happened. Ran by it, looking for more to kill. Yet when I tried to run back I kept on getting stuck on some invisible wall.

Other than that, awesome job and keep it up.

The chainsaw… It had to be done :3
Anyway, thinking about the final game, having weapon variations seems kinda fun. If the drops and find will be random, no weapon will be the same.

Also… Will the final item locations be random, or static?

It’s a mix. Each container has a set list of items, then searching skill and luck statistics play a part in adding extra finds.
- Con

Its weird when i go down the stairs and then back up there are zombies but they don’t attack those 2 guys.

I’m liking the variations, it adds a little something. Weapon jamming for damaged weapons would be a good option, but I would imagine adding extra coding isn’t really what you want to be doing.

I liked the addition of Zombie dogs. Any chance you could do another few skins of that? Rottweilers aren’t the only dog on the planet…

Yep, plan to make a number of dog variants. Little fact I learned yesterday though, Rottweilers are responsible for 40% of dog attacks in the US, second only to the Pitbull.
- Con

Zombie setting on the bed appears standing before i shoot them.

Why is there a worse variation of blades but no worse variations of other weapons?

great job con!this is amazing, now i finaly dont get -100 hp!but no i have 0hp:)
i love the katana and chainsaw and im always using spec ops i think it pimps the weapons very much:)

i love the blood around the screen when u get hit8O

8o i mean

Are the lighter versions going to be Airborne? IE shorter barrels, collaspeable stocks? I think the M4 is the lighter version of the M16 isn’t it?

awsome now i can pretend to be an navy seal and sneak attack those zombies thnx looking forward to more updates

Does the custom stock do anything? The appearance, damage, magazine size, weight, nor reload speed (at least I don’t think) has been changed.

Hello con thank you for spending time with this and im just asking will there be aggro zombies will come if you shoot with loud weapons and btw game rating is 10 out of 5 and srry about my bad english im from finland = Olet paras!

Hello to Finland! I’m hoping to travel in that area next year.
The zombies will aggro if you make too much noise, yes. At the moment, they are very sensitive to any sound.

- Con

I also noticed the Katana is “Heavy” not “Sharpened”

uhh… hey I see this advertisement to the left of my screen saying tactical, concealable, specialist,and hard armor any chance these will be put into codes to unlock clothes?

Wow. Just wow! That’s a lot of weapons.
This is my favourite alpha yet!

Zomg What The *BEEEEEEEEP*ing *BEEP* its 1000 pounds ._. but the guns are cool nice work con this makes me more intrested in the real game mwahahhaha XD

Great Alpha , Con! I was just wondering, ETA for the UMP?

About 2 weeks ago

giveItem(UMP45) I think. Or it might just be UMP.
- Con

Con, your so friggin awesome. Also, I was wondering if we could find attachments and put them on guns?

Con I have a question, what is the Jerry Can of fuel for?

Chainsaw.
- Con

excellent alpha and love the new weapons and the old dogs, but yeah 1000 pounds was a great surprise

Thank you yet again Con. How about we give the Survivors the guns we don’t want, and their base stats are half of ours? So they level with us? OR We could level them up separately.

I use the spawn(slowZombie) cheat to gain levels quickly because their exp gain are not set yet, resulting in “NaN” exp which is infinite. So I level up with each one killed . Too bad there’s a level cap for the alphas or I would have all my skills maxed out.

Ah, I messed up, it’s zombieSlow
- Con

nice, i like the full ammo thing, and whats the point of a lightened version of a gun, it does super low damage, is it like a backup weapon for a player with a gatling gun?

i can se some legs behind some things at the bus stop with the apartment,is it suposed to be there

Very nice alpha, been playing since the 0.94 and I have to say that it is addictive. But I still don’t know what does the custom stock do?(played with the UMP once and it doesn’t affect much, maybe I’m just too accurate to realize anything) – Anyway, keep up the good work!

Feel free to delete this one:

I figured, right after I posted my last comment, it was probably the hit box left up after the zombie died. The same one that prevents you from just running past zombies.
Also, floating torsos almost only happen on elevated surfaces (i.e: Beds, crates.) Might be a problem with their climbing animation, seeing as they just kind of pop up randomly on those surfaces. Always seen in a vertical position also, with head pointing towards the ceiling and torso stump towards floor.

It’s got to do with the falling animation. The crawlers (the torso guys) don’t have the proper animation yet, so they don’t go through it and end up in their idle animation.
- Con

man, you rly did it this time. amazing work dude. i love how the screen reacts to when your being attacked. just one question, i never saw any change to the damaged g17 pistol. is there some sort of feature where it jams after firing alot?

It has reduced accuracy and damage.
- Con

big thanks for katana! when i’be dropped an silenced PPM i have thinked about James Bond moviess

post one Random well you dident expect every one to have done the MAINTENANCE of theres guns did you?
Zombie director sounds interest just wounder Con will we ever see that entity I men If we some how bugs the game and it send one to the debug room? would love that sort of like how they did in zelda A link to the pass although it was just an room full of coins.
and in flash this might not be possible.

O MY GOOD!THE ALFA IS VERY GOOD!YOU ADDED THE RPG?

Interesting. Will there be any way of making changes yourself?

It could be a good side mission reward- “find x and I’ll put a scope on your gun.”

No plans for that, no.
- Con

Great update, loving it. Keep up the good work.

And again, it’s me. >_<

A katana should be more of a bladed weapon as opposed to a blunt one, right? And thus should be more of a weapon to be sharpened and not heavy.

Sorry for all of the comments, but I keep on going through it again and again on fresh characters to see if I can find something else.

Yeah, the melee weapon code is kind of messed up at the moment, I need to re-align the weapons into one handed and two handed and then sub-catogorise them into blades and blunts.
- Con

niceeee, cant wait till beta

What kind of advantage are for the custom stock variant ?

The music is very good gives that scary zombie movie feeling but the weapons should be able to damage the zombie but with reduced damage

I was kind of disapointed when you turn off unlimited search a few alphas ago, but this extremely makes up for this. I LOVE THIS ONE!!! brb gotta go play it for a few hours more

you have out done youerself awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey Con, I found another attribute on a shotgun – “Lightened”. I’m guessing it lightens the weight, but it looks like you missed that one.

Great work – keep it up! Love the zombie dogs as well

Is there a punch-through limit on the M24 sniper rifle? Sometimes I can shoot clear through 5 zombies with one bullet (tried with head, torso, legs) and other times only two or three. I’d give it roughly a 1/6 chance that it’s only a few zombies. And no, there was not a kevlar equipped police zombie in the way. Other times, it skips a zombie in the line, yet proceeds to damage ones past it.

I just might be over analyzing it also. Who knows?

It should be able to pass through 3 and only 3, I’ll have to check the code.
- Con

ya no puedo esperar mas para la versión completa

Are you gonna make bladed weapons go through bullet proof vests? because in real life it wouldnt stop one. especially a heavy katana.

whats the point of custom stock upgrade ? I dont see any difference between this and normal weapons

Hey just got done playing the new verson. Great job. Im gonna go play some more . But, hod do you use gernades?

Love the variations. It makes it more realistic (the dull, damaged and stuff like that) because you wouldn’t find a shiny new weapon just out of nowhere.

This maybe will be the best Flashgame ever and ever again.
Will cigarettys be smokeable and so!?
Thank you.

~d3wd

OMG these new weapons are amazing… I almost feel sorry for the zombies.

One thing though: the shotgun is still waaaay underpowered and not worth using. And how about some variations, like a full-auto AA12?

Semi-auto shotguns will be in for sure. I actually built a full auto shotgun for LS2 and it was in the game for a while, but it KILLED performance of the game because of all the projectiles it was pumping out.
- Con

con i got a question what is the code for the SV-Smg ive tried everything and its like one of my favorite weapons and what is the code for sunglasses

giveItem(vector)
- Con

Hey, Con, I see you made the zombies a lot “weaker” this time, or atleast lowered their health. Is this closer to what the finished product is going to be like? Im personally cool with weaker zombies. Atm it was a bit too easy with all the ammo I found and them dying so fast.
M249 is a silent death machine, but ate all my ammo!! (btw left a bug report of the “silent” part).

Yeah, I’m still playing with the balance. Oh and yeah, the M249 has no sound yet.
- Con

er, shouldn’t the spec ops weapon with the scopes and the SUPRESSORS and things make it so other zombies in the area dont hear it and have a dog from far off rush to it? ive found alot of fuel but no chainsaw yet, i got one shot gun, then a damaged shot gun, then two shotguns in one drop.

Yeah I need to increase the zombie’s tolerance for sound, they’re responding to everything at the moment.

Chainsaw command is giveItem(chainsaw)
- Con

what’s the lightened variation about?

nice alpha! see ya fixed the reloadin for da smg/svg or summin. keep up da good work!

every update make look more like fallout 3

Honestly, the backround music works kinda hypnotising. Could you make a command for unlimited weight? That would be great.

kan you put swat armor in the game

The picture scares me. I want to try a gun chainsaw if that’s possible.

sweet dude.

Epic update is epic. Dogs are cool. You’re making a great game so far.

Wtf I found fuel for ammo but no flamer 0_0 possibley flamer coming? And why does the m24 sniper have a scope veriation?

Epic. However as i was searching i fount an error, one of the items were called “undefinated” or somthing like that?

saw+chainsaw equals massive grinding i got on one side of the street ever 10 seconds i unleash bullets of fury! until i run out the go around slice slice >:D

Dude, when are you gonna open the other two doors in the street???

I like the variant system, easy way to ad tonnes more weapons. Plus, they make sense. Some games have variants or attachments that don’t make any realistic sense, it pisses me off. I’m kind of a stickler for weapon realism.
Anyway, good work as usual. Patiently awaiting the full release.

I found a AK-47 with a custom stock does the stock help me?

What this “custom stock” i found?

Mr.M249SAw and Mrs.Uzi came YAY!!!

And I like the new fake adds lolz

YES!! i knew the new alpha was coming soon. awesome, Con! were getting closer and closer to the beta, can’t wait!

Full support con! sorry 4 not posting in the suggjestion place but finding a military rifle in a city should be fairly rareER. but great great work!

Yeah, I haven’t adjusted the rarity of all the modded versions of the weapons yet. Spec Ops and Military versions will be much tougher to find randomly.
- Con

i love this game katana bonzie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bonzai?
Or is Bonzie the cool guy in Japanese Happy Days?
- Con

love the game great job can you get the swat uniform in the Game as A special please respond

This is getting good…

finally! dead halfies lol, but i found an unaware one “standing” on the bed. Great alpha, like the dogs and new weapons!

one of your zombies made me feel bad. came towards her and she walked away from me. she dumped me for her date to hell and so i let her go… to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow. THAT took a lot of coding.

hey there con!
very nice so far love the spec- ops obviously gonna be a long load for the full game but i’m sure it will be worth the wait. sorry to be tedius but which artist is the first song by? and is there any chance there will be any more zombie animals? thanks again comrade

Song is by one of my oldest friends, same musician who worked on LS2. You can check his work out via the link to Loop Party on the side of this page.
- Con

Well con you have done a really great job on this and there some real depth to it now with the weapon mods. things are looking very good i would not be surprized if you get an award of some sort.

thankyou for your outstanding collection of flash games.

ScopedDeathadder & HeavyKatana = Epic Win

yo con i like this new one but i love the um45 and uzi that dint have sound its alomost like a slient death lol! KEEP IT UP

whats with the fuel

why does the m249 saw use 7.62mm? in real life it uses 5.56 rounds

Cut and paste code. I’ll fix that.
- Con

when is your best gess about the relace of the beta? and the old dog looks was funny cuz it borught back memores

the wepons are great fantastic awsome job fire axe best wepon but cant you chop there heads off with the axe and have blood spewing everywhere that wold be a great aditon as well as having baonets!

So i was wondering no matter how many zombies i killed the only drop i got was a katana, any reason or are the drops completly random and luck of the draw im still getting nothing?

Weapon drops are mostly random, your Luck stat increases your chances.
- Con

Will this just be a updating game, or will there be one day when there is nothing to upgrade or improve? So far the game just keeps getting better. The best of The Last Stand by far.

Sharpened Hands deserve to be a one hit KO for epic awesomeness

The hands just won’t die will they. Geez.
- Con

i got a special gun with a name not in the description, what exactly does lightened mean i dont have the normal version of the gun but im guessing just less weight and mabye a little less damage.

Just lower weight.
- Con

Will it still be a 2010 release?

wats up with the custom stock variation and u need to have them drop more med supplys cus i like takin them on with the mechete but they attack back at that range

Holy F*ucking shit! great work con!
im really looking forward to it!

yay 23rd comment.

i love all the new stuff but its so heavy.

nice alpha con! lm so happy that you took your time just for me to take out all that blood and stuff on the low violence option.

your games are getting better and better.

one time i was in a room killing zombies like normal when a zombie dog jumped on me i screamed! ahhhhhhhhhhhh. it was cool when a zombie hit me because i noticed that you made it like call of duty my screen got red
and a little dark and it was hard to see.

ill see you later and thank you so much!

what are the weapons that you will add in the next alpha?(the chainsaw is beautiful!(= )

Im very impressed with the different upgrades of the weapons. Very good.

Weak zombies, human limbs popping out of dogs, and strangely i get drops FULL of weapons but im running out of ammo like its chicken? Wow……

The current weapon system is cool, but i think it would be cool if you made it possible to switch accessories for guns. Accessories would be separate items which could be added to certain guns.

Not happening. In a lot of cases in real life, attachments like that aren’t interchangable between weapons.
- Con

what are some con sole commands like for infinite xp and ammo also whats with the heavy katana

I’ve explained this, read through my responses.
- Con

How long does it take you to make an area roughly this size because it looks great?

Not long, it’s all made up of parts, walls, windows etc that I just stick together. The time is in making those parts initially.
- Con

WOOHOO!! M249, am gonna have fun with that one in the full game . thanks con

Hey Con, i’ve been watching this whole process (and playing LS1&2 since they came out) so this is the first time I’m responding to this. Whats up with those two guys at the starting room? Do they give you a quest of some sort? And how do you get them to talk? I have +70 in speaking and I still get the same message…

Anyway, great game and hope to test some more in the future!

Nothing at the moment, it’s just the beginning of the quest system code.
- Con

(From Comment #15)

Ok Con. So I was looking around about the problem, and I couldn’t find anything. (But really, what am I supposed to search for? Flash 10 broke mac settings menu?) So I tried it on safari, and it didn’t work. Then I tried it on firefox, and it didn’t work. So then I downloaded google chrome. And guess what. It worked. So I guess Google Chrome is going to be my new browser. Thanks for the help, which you unknowingly provided.

Hmmm, odd. It might’ve been that Chrome updated your flash player for you as it comes built in with the browser from my understanding. Maybe try checking it in Safari now and see if it’s still broken?
- Con

i hope your still in that good mood you said you were in from comment 16 because i just have a small question.

obviously its your decision but im just curious about one of the posters, is my poster going to make it to the game? i havent seen it in any alpha yet.

thanks

Yeah, the rest of the posters will get done. I’ve been itching to do some straight art stuff so I’ll probably move onto those next week.
- Con

Con,
Have you done work on any games not listed here on your website? The artwork you do is just amazing. Also, any thoughts on converting Union City over to XBOX live arcade? Your games would look incredible on an HD television screen!

I sure have, I worked for an ad agency that produced games for the Australian Defence Force here’s a few that I lead the team on and did a big chunk of the art:

- Con

probably would have helped that i told you what my poster was,

burger don

dude u have to bring the berret back i was sad when it wasn’t in ls2 plzzzzz baret 50. cal plzzzzzz

What if I bring it back with a beret?
- Con

Lol, a Beret .50 cal would be fun. Although I’d rather see a Barrett .50 cal myself.

I can’t seem to kill the zombie unicorn in the second area, any tips/suggestions?

Take a walk outside.
- Con

Hey could there be a tank???
And the Charger too!!!

The Last Stand: Union City shall now be known as Left 5 Dead.
- Con

he current weapon system is cool, but i think it would be cool if you made it possible to switch accessories for guns. Accessories would be separate items which could be added to certain guns.

Not happening. In a lot of cases in real life, attachments like that aren’t interchangable between weapons.
- Con

Hell, if video games were all totally realistic, they probably wouldn’t even be fun. Also I could imagine in this situation, people would just “jerry rig” silencers and scopes onto their guns. Besides, I think it would be quite fun to pimp out me and my survivors weapons. If you choose not to do this because it would be too much work, that’s fine. Just don’t make up reasons of why not to do it.

It’s not that I can’t do it, it was a design decision. It’s another layer of complication that I didn’t want in the weapons.

- Con

Now where do you think Danny has ran off to? He was the only other person who constantly commented on this site. (and the forums, when they were open)

@135

Wow…i heard con say he was gonna make bosses sorta like L4D a long tiem ago but i think he has changed them to the good old bosses from the origanal LS2.

But it would be cool to see some kind of new boss. Something with a challenge that will make anyone with any gun work their as* off to kill it.

ok because i still wanted to offer that i can help you with the posters if you need it, that offer that i made a while ago is still on the table

Wow, love the variety here. Glad it hasn’t devolved *too* much into a gun nerd game (ala MW2), haha. My only beef is the way the scope is mounted on the M16 – looks kinda awkward.

Also, regarding post 123 – I understand silencers are not universally compatible, but other accessories like tactical sights and such are, differing only in the mounts needed to fix them to the gun. But not all guns have rails for max. interchangeability, right? Is that what you meant?

LoL my current health is NaN/225 i am IMMORTAL!

LONG LIVE M249 THE ULTIMANT ZOMBIE KILLER
1 Question will an RPG-7 be available in the final game

I noticed something about the reload of the UZI, the guy puts a magazine in the barrel of the gun, but that long bar he is holding on to, is the magazine.
See:
http://barrettbrothersllc.com/images/Training%20Page/IMI_Uzi.JPG

So when I said in the post that it needs animation work one would assume I knew about the problem. No? I appreciate you’re trying to help but please read harder
- Con

Looks like ive been out of touch con, anyways i like the new weapons and zombie dogs…. so is the M24 With the Scoped Upgrade just makes it More Accurate?

Yeah, I need to change to graphic to give it a bigger scope than the standard.
- Con

The first time i played the alpha 0.95 i searched all of the containers and when i went back to search them again there was no items in there

Con, I just have to mention something about the dogs (NOT GETTING STUCK IN BOXES). In real life a dog without weapons would be able to kill like 3 humans without weapons. What im trying to say is that the dogs damage should be much higher.

*sad face* Saves aren’t compatible with .95. Oh well. Great job Con. This is turning out great.

this is amazing and its still only in alpha! i can’t wait to see what the final game is like. Con, you should really consider pitching the Last Stand to video game publishers as a console game!

did i really see a pregnant zombie? really?

The female zombies are kind of oddly large stomached, yes.
- Con

hmm….. The stocks seems unchanged… are you planning on actually changing the stocks for customized ones and adding some kind of i dunno… Camoflauged military weaponry?

Hello,
Since you are an amazing artist, why don’t you create a comic or two about your development, they would be perfect for teaching people not to ask the same things all over again.
In style of freelanceswitch comics: http://freelanceswitch.com/freelance-freedom/ (Remove link when publishing comment).
Well, just an idea.

Will look forward to reply,
The Porno Guy

Holy crap but I just saw a dog spawn in front of me on the screen!Good thing I swung my axe early!

@Mike,this is a flash game,not a X-box 360 video game!

Keep up the good work Con!

Con that comment about Japanese Happy Days brought joy and laughter to my life.

Glad someone got it
- Con

i report a bug but it isent listed
when you shoot the bow and then press reload key the reload animation is cuted and you can shoot again

Are we able to get the weapon variants through coding??

i dont want to be annoying or re-post, but the katana is really a ninjata

and are you thinking about possibly putting this on psn?

time to kill some Union City zombs with the ever famous katana

omfg soooooooooooooooooooo awsome e-mail me got like 20 weapons low ammo

HOLY DOG BONES BATMAN! I killed a zombie and got bottled water and a ak spec ops! Way to go con, i think it would make sense if you were to add certain weapons that fit the zombie description? Like military to military weapons. Unless they were freshly dead!

dude just for the alpha can there be a code where you weigh nothing because im fed up of having to be stuck on one spot and let the zombies come to me

btw i aint drunk anymore im just wrestling with a hangover :D:D:D:D

oh and also will the sound you create in game affect the amount of zombies

Not the number, no.
- Con

how come since this update it hasnt let me play

why is it that every zombie dog is a rockwiller
why not a golden retrever , that would be epic

not a request, just wondered why every movie and game did that

did get this sweet little drop yesterday.
one guy drooped 3 AK at ones.
I think it was one damage, one scoped and one I don´t remember what it was on it.
So I shoot another looter or team
pack mule. Guess his friend wasn’t to happy about that.

oh and one more thing i miss my partner ;’(

It would be nice to able to spawn Zombies. You know, target practice.

hey con you know your dead frontier ad gave me the creepies (hate white eyes also demon children)

any way great alpha love it.love what you have done to the weapons and stuff

I agree with Chris. How come, Con, there are always zombie Rottweilers, if not German Shephards? Why can’t it be a Yorkie, they’re so adorable and cute? Greg

Read through my responses.
- Con

Con, will the custom stock variation change the stock later in the game? if so, will each custom stock change on each identical weapon? example one MP5 has one custom stock and another MP5 has another?

Shalom!

I am from Israel, I enjoy the gameplay and the game is fun.

Me and some friends from the Israel Defense Force loves the game and we quite enjoy ourselves.

However, I could not find much commands, I did read though the responses you made, but I really didn’t find much or too much information about the commands.

One of the problems I didn’t like (I think it would be fix in the future) is that the bow is very powerful. I found it a little odd to instantly kill unarmored zombie with a bow.. compare to a few 9mm rounds from the Glock.

I am really looking forward to his game and if you need help with Israeli weaponry (Uzi and others) I would be glad to help you. (You most likely will not need my help. )

I’m looking forward to more!

Jakub from Israel.

Very good job so far I am glad that I am waiting longer for the finished product.

con I will never look at a zombie the same way again. I find a zombie with no pants and no boxers. When I killed it the zombie fell to the floor butt up. uhhhh!

Hands Sharpened. Lol.

Are you somehow going to add to the weapon description the accuracy?? cause i wanted to know what is the accuracy of an AK -Scoped

Yeah, the weapon info panels need an overhaul to show the stats better, accuracy being one of them.
- Con

Some how you can’t shove dogs? are you gonna make some kind of animation of kicking the dog?

Sorting that out at the moment.
- Con

hey con just wondering if there will be a store or maby a shady guy with some guards with his own corner to sell and buy ammo? great game by the way.

After playing all these alphas it’s pretty monotonous. Point. Click. Rape. That’s it.

You’re kind of missing the point of this whole process. It’s not about it being fun, it’s about testing.
- Con

It looks like Future Weaponry Book is till alive…

I also seem to hear a Faint Heart beat when your almost dead… nice!!! also, I Sometime Blow Off The Head of a zombie with a ppm Pistol with or without crit and the M24 cant actually do it is that intended?

Is the struggle system still going to be in the game? Since that’s the main feature I’m after. If you have time, some context-sensitive struggle-executions would be good too.

I’m actually spent today working on it. It’s almost ready.
- Con

im sorry con, but your spawn system is just weird. Since this alpha i’ve been seeing a lot less zombies, and once i was walking a hellhound (sorry thats just my cod5 nazi zombies language, i mean the dogs) literally spawned on top of me.

It’s not finished, currently it is just spawning a base level of zombies. I’ve still got to program the “paced” zombie spawns in where you’ll get rushes and heavily occupied rooms occurring.
- Con

Struggle system! Great! Con, you are awesome.

But I have one thing I need to say. The tension isn’t there.

In TLS1 and 2, there was constant… fear. The idea of “Oh my god, I’m going to be eaten!” The fast pace, the relentless action, the music, the overwhelming numbers…

Everything made it seem like it was your last stand. Like you’d die if you didn’t stop the zombies. (The death scene helped.)

But now, the fear’s gone. I’m not worried. The standing up zombies have some of it, but not enough. Maybe it’s just the Alpha.

I suppose it will get better in the full game, but I’d just like to remind you. Possibly some more nighttime scenes?

Don’t worry, I’ve got plans. What you’re describing is what I like to call “oh shit” moments. There’s plenty more of those to come. What you’re dealing with at the moment is the base level of zombies as I said earlier. You’re also dealing with the pretty standard mobs too.

On top of all that, you can’t die currently and haven’t been able to in all the Alpha’s, that risk will change things quite a bit.
- Con

Will there be any new building entries to the are we roam in any time soon and will the fuel for the chain saw have any other use then just powering a chainsaw that takes ages to kill a zombie

Hehehe spawn( ) is fun

i laugh at the scoped death adder reference to mad max scoped magnum intentional?

couple of things 1st will the game be like fallout 3 where you meet outcasts or do missions or even have fast travel 2nd technically when a zombie bites you your not supposed o lose health but get infected (resident evil outbreak) so shouldnt there be a gauge instead of a life bar and instead of food there should be a anti virus thats the common zombie you get bite you become a zombie within 24 hours thanx and please reply

one question, have you finished the rooms through locked doors or do u need really high serucity or watevs to open them?

I have to say this is one of the most cool things that im waiting to come out. alphas seem fairly stable, but just a couple of things to note.

- push animations are choppy
- no negative modifier for blunt weapons
- a random button for character dev., including name randomization (would be nice for lazy people like myself)
- a tactical modifier (shorter weapon length for quicker draw, quicker fire, less accuracy.
- more melee weapons

those are just some alpha suggestions since you’re finishing up the alpha testing, hopefully it will be helpful to you as feedback.

keep up the good work!

-Anonymous

I found that the zombies when getting really close to you, will block you from moving, the bullets will shoot past them. Problem is, when you move back into the other room.. that zombie will block the door.

Is there a FAQ or can you give me the commands?

-Jakub from Israel

Interesting designs for the spawning and weps. I find that if you try to actually play the game and level, the spawns ramp very quickly, and if you play without all weps you can’t level searching fast enough to find ammo/heals to kill them all.

I’m assuming you will fix this in the Beta?

Levelling speed and corresponding zombie numbers will be something that gets addressed up until release. Given the nature of the game, it’s not the easiest thing to pin down, but it’s easy to adjust.
- Con

How come I’m finding knifes all the time which suck to begin with (no offense) but they’re dull? But I still love you in a totally no-sexual way Con.

Because knives are common finds. I’ll be adding more commonly found items soon, so it won’t just be knife knife knife.
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When I saw Sharpened Hands I thought as to how you Sharpen your own hands. Put a Whet Stone to your hand and make Quick Long Strokes?

Other than imagining a poor soul Sharpen his hand to the bone to use as a weapon, it looks nice. Scoped, Military, Spec Op and the rest are good additions to the arsenal. I had one question as to how the Quest System will work, like what rewards and Objectives would be. If you haven’t decided or figured it out, its fine.

I have figured it out, I just don’t have time to answer questions about things that don’t exist yet
- Con

I thought the same thing about my hands too LeoLeonardo III.

the FAL spec ops is so beast thank you

hey when i approach a zombie from the back and push it (spacebar) it does not react. is that a glitch or a calculated decision

Yeah, shoving them at the moment doesn’t cause them to be alerted, fixing it right now.
- Con

ok con i see what you mean about swarms and spawns i just entered a room with 10 zombies and 1 dog. and it wasted all my ammo for my mp5 which pisses me off lol.

and i saw custom stock added damage, for those people who are wondering it’s in the weapon description. i think.

holy sh*t con didya updtae your spawn system last night coz every room i enter has a swarm (not the street though), just then i entered the bedroom there were about 20 zombies and 2 dogs and the game started lagging.

The cap for zombie population at higher levels might be way too high right now.
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sorry for triple post but i think there seems to be much more zombies at night. is this true? and my comment before, i entered the room again and the dogs started walking behind the door. and they were moving very slowly. it was like a zombie party or something.

No.
- Con

con, i know you’re supposed to have solved the saving problem by now, but mine still doesnt save. It works fine when i don’t close the browser but refresh, but when i play the alpha again the next day, poof. Help! I don’t want to have this same problem when i play the real thing.

Did you accept the file limit request when you first loaded the game? If not, do the following:

If the game still doesn’t save, I have no idea what’s going on. It may have something to do with your browser clearing out it’s cache on a schedule, perhaps?
- Con

Fire Axe dominates. Does this mean we will find Fireman zombies? Or for that matter, zombies-on-fire? Keep up the good work.

How do you get the military helmet and body armour?

I saw them in a previous alpha but Can’t find any in this one. Has it been taken out of this alpha?

Also, what’s the deal with Jonah?

yo man dont want to be the bearer of bad news but, sometimes when zombies, that walk, climb on things (e.g. the bed) they still slide across it. also it would be better if the dogs barked a bit more and if there were more of a variety of them like brown dogs or a sausage dog just for some laughs…and in the game you should make ammo quite scarce (unless there is going to be a hard mode where this will be included then i retract my previous statement). But sweet game man Good luck its lookin good to me…

nice alpha, though wouldnt a chainsaw cut thru armor? or is it just me

Wow you’re working really quick by yourself! I know this game will be great.

I know someone mentioned that zombies respond eerily well to suppressed weapons being fired. But I just want to ask about all the other weapon sound levels and zombie responses to it.

Namely with unsuppressed weapons, such as the AK and Fali. Zombies seem to be deaf when I fire these guns, even though they are some cracking weapons. Mostly if they are looking away from my character. I once cleared an entire room with single head shots and they all just kinda stood there.

Oh, and on another note:
If you jump off the beds while moving in a direction, the character animations freak out. The body becomes sort of disjointed and compacted.

how do you do cheats?

This game will be LEGEN- wait for it -DARY

black cargo pants plz

Hahahahahaha, i see your little ‘Bukkake Sushi’ poster reappeared with the Bukkake part whited out, is that a little sick joke of yours?
XD

Love the update, keep ‘em coming

Great job with the little easter eggs like the bottle cap and the posters in the background.

so how is progress

you sir are the most badass game maker on the net. Much kudos for you and your amazing skillz. This game is going to be fricking epic when its finished and from what ive seen so far peoples minds will be blown. Thanks again sir for being a badass.

wow this game even makes me have a favorite time of day (4am to 6am) fav gun is UZI_specOps and i would love a pair of CargoPants-Black

=D I gotta ask you, can you make an all clothes command for the next alpha? I would .. give you a hug .. A Man Hug Not A Fabulous Hug =D

Game= awesome
A spec Op suit=MORE AWESOME EPICNESS
wouldnt that be awesome?

WOOT YOU CANT DIE

Con i want a armored vest like jonah the guy that stands there and has a bad temper please!!!!!!!!!

I still want a pony.
- Con

Ok, now it saved my game from 3 days ago, lol. I think it works now. Thanks con! *hugs*

Loving it so far, but balance is an issue. I think that’s what betas are for, but just felt I’d put it out there anyways. FAL is my favourite gun in the game and prolly top 5 period, but it’s SO overpowered. One shot kill for the most part.
Also, did you take out the levelUp command? It doesn’t seem to work.
Thanks con, loving it so far, I check the blog everyday for new updates.

first off as always your fucking awsome and you are doing amazing work, but i wondering if you could post a list of all the commands in a fourm or somthing for people, i dont mind looking through because i have nothing to do and alot time (and i like listening to your sarcastic comments and stupid people) but for your people like Jakub from Israel, anyways awsome shit and i read about your conversation with the attachements and was wondering if there are going to be, becasue you do have that little blue tabe under the wepon labeled attachments any ways, good job good luck and catch you later

Thanks, then you’ll know I tend to delete comments from people who swear unnecessarily and make requests for lists then?
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Yes the attachments are great! Love’em! Love the holographic sight on the Vector. But a sniper scope on THE M4A1? Come on man u gotta be shitting me. Why about ACOGs sight? But beside that, i have to say: This alpha alone can beat every flash game at the moment, honestly.
And hey, have u ever though about a creating a flash game’s physic engine?

No, no I haven’t. No-one does that. Everyone uses 2 or 3 different physics engines.
- Con

I like the shuddering when you shoot or melee hit, I like the blood going around the screen, how you still cant die (lol) and how that pesky survivor isnt taking my kills anymore d

You should make low chance awesome weapons, like a teddy bear, or a spork

The Zombie Dogs look familiar are they the LS2 Dogs? Also 200th comment YAYZZ, Please don’t delete this comment.

Very impressive Con!
You’ll be front page material before too long

Got a rough guestimate on completion date? Even a particular month? If I’m going to try and put you in somewhere, I need a slot to aim for.

Business aside, great work mate! Love the dogs and the item drops. Not such a fan of the chainsaw though. And the grenade launcher doesnt seem powerful enough.

Not doing release dates, even rough months. Email from that work address and we can talk.
- Con

are you feeling sick? is your character hurt? are they nearly dead? well, press ~ and type in giveItem(medkit) and go to you bag and use your free medkit!

and con, im not sure, but my m24 just did 4748 damage? i think it did 47 and 48 damage to 2 zombies next to each other, but im not sure.

Yeah sounds like it did the latter. The M24 has penetration.
- Con

LS1 and LS2 are super games! And the LS3 Union City, I am sure will be even steeper. You work hard over a 3 part, it will be paid? sorry for my english

I did some research and Union City is a real city and it’s also the name of a band

Did you know this when you were thinking of a city for your game or is this just a coincidence?

I had no idea, was trying to make up a fake city name and didn’t bother to check it.
- Con

You can totally hit a crawler with a Katana you have to kneel and then hit it though. And Con. for RDS scopes can you make a red beam from the gun to the enemie(s)

You realise that RDS don’t emit a beam? It’s a floating crystal display.
- Con

I got another comment for you. When i was playing I noticed that with the shotgun you can not stop reloading but you can inturupt it in the other games are you going to fixed that or what

Yep. Also, it’s interrupt, and just because another game does something doesn’t mean that’s the standard.
- Con

Hey con, can you do me a favor? Make more zombies as you level up, like the percentage of number of zombies increase when you level

Hey, it already does that.
- Con

Love the new guns and its variations. Makes it one of those actual survival moments that are just classic. Though are there gonna be special types as like in FO3 with terrible shotgun or nighthawk?

Love this new gameplay. But don’t like the numbers popping up at all. Seems too much like a rpg and takes away from the realism.

You can turn them off in the visual options.
- Con

hey everyone as questions and ratings about the game, but i wanna know what you think about the game…

I think it’s just awful. That’s why I’m spending 9 months building it
- Con

Not to be picky, but the suppressed smgs sound more like mouse clicks than suppressed gun shots.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7aQgnI9Fz0
- Con

whats with the ARROWED! text when you shoot an arrow?

Just some left over debug text letting me know an arrow was hitting something.
- Con

First of all , awesome game ! I love the series and your works dude !

I relly love the katana (good change of melee for once xD) and bow , like in every game xD

Question : can you open the doors ? Or you haven’t put thant yet ?

And the only bad thing things for me are the dogs xD It’s just psycological , I got almost killed by a rotwiller once T.T

Oh and sorry for double but forgot to tell you . THANK YOU SO MUCH for the azerty option ! I live in France so I got one of this keyboards xD and could play well the other last two games xD

No problems, it’s causing some grief at the moment though
- Con

I just got a headshot with the M79 (Of couse, it dealt *-infinit* damage). Should I win a prize or something (maybe the ability to take off the flashlight, it looks stupid with the silencer on the Glock 17).

hey i just ssaw the katana, and thought it was unique (i know its not) but will unique weps make an apperance? like fallout 3 (BEST.GAME.EVAR.)

Sorry for the re-commenting, but when i said about creating physic engines i ment : why didnt u put em’ in your games? Because of the huge file size? Or some’in?
Oh and when you say:” u can customize your weapons” i didnt think we would fine the already-customziedddd.

Performance is the issue. Ragdoll bodies require a lot of CPU usage in Flash.
- Con

You may be aware of this bug alrady con put please check the link anyways, it happens when you put the cursor directly below the character.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=wkh46r&s=7

i love the katana i’m definatly gonna train the blade skill in the finished product haha!

can you please please answer this question or perhaps think about answering it…

Whatabout with melee weapons you dont just click to swing but you can hold down theleft mouse button and let go when you need to? be a nice touch but i dunno how much more work that’ll take. thankyou again

I actually trialled a hold and release system for Melee weapons early on, but it didn’t feel right and was really annoying in tight spots.
- Con

@DannyDaNinja actually, i thought con knew it was a real city and named this city on purpose because it was on the west coast. i always had this idea that the world was infected but, the Australian government was locking the continent down and america was sending refugees and other survivors to them.

Hey Con i was wondering if your still going to have shops i love this game so much and i was hopeing in every alpha that the shop system would be open

sincerely your, megamanx736

Shops? Who said anything about shops? Shop.
- Con

The overall gameplay does not feel like the other last stands. Not just the barricade action, but the style of playing. In this game, you turn right when there are zombies to your right, and turn left when there are zombies to your left. While in last stand, you had to chose between hitting the running zombie that had an axe who may or may not kill one of your allies, or the dog that is currently destroying the wall. That was a tough call. It may happen in this game, but it will be quite rare. (As it should only happen outside, because when you enter a room you are already on one side, and there are no zombies behind you.) In this game, its pretty much trying to find which weapon can dish out the most damage in a certain situation. It is a very good balance of stratagy, role play, and action, but it gets quite boring. If you want to win over a sum lot of people, your going to have to come up with one amazing suspenseful storyline.

I think you’re in the minority here. I don’t know how many times I have to say it, the game isn’t done. All the zombie types aren’t done. The strategy is coming back. Have a little foresight. If you think it’s currently boring, how do you think I’d feel about it? I test this game for hours a day.

I’ve got 3 very distinctly different things coming up in the next Alpha that mix things up quite a bit.
- Con

I’m actually a little sad that the UMP and Uzi have made a comeback after playing with the MP5 and the new .45

More weapons = cry?
- Con

Looking good. Caught me with that first dog. The weapons seem great, adding various types was a great idea, not too complex but gives good variety. Not a whole lot of bugs compared to earlier versions, either.

By the way, a random thought came to mind. Since you got a .45 revolver, would a 9mm revolver be a good idea too? I recall the Ruger New Vacquero (though wrong anims compared to the other wheel gun in-game) and the Medusa Model 47 used standard 9mm ammo. Heck, the Medusa is just a cool gun – uses a bunch of different ammo and looks cool.

Oh? I honestly wasn’t aware of 9mm revolvers, I’ll look into it.
- Con

Ladders, struggle system, quests, more zombies. Can’t wait to visit Union City in the full game.

Con, your game is awesome and people who think the Alphas are boring should stop playing them and wait for the full game. It’ll seem even better then.

Nice warning Con, Anyway are you thinking of even fixing the Melee Flashlight or somehow your going to add a flashlight Somewhere on the weapon?

Wow… I Start Up The Game and poof black screen…… wow its so dark are you goin to improve the darkness by idunno autoflashlight?

I’m thinking that I’ll include a brightness option.
- Con

this is just theoretical not suggesting or saying could this or will this be in the last versions. (also if youw want to deleate it fine with me.)
if you block zombies from getting through a certain room in a building will the zombies once you have cleared out all of the blocked off rooms will they spawn again?

Also I havent played any of the Alphas for a while and I am going to hold of for a few months so when I look again I am going to feel like most of this is new and like how much you will change it.

Yeah they will respawn, but only after a set amount of game time has passed. The way it works is that when you clear a room, the game records the time you were there. The next time you visit, it checks if it’s been long enough for more zombies to have stumbled into the room and will spawn them then.
- Con

Hey Con,will the next alpha has the quest?(The two people that standing at the first room),and sorry if my English is bad.

Probably not, I’ve got a few other things that I need to finish first.
- Con

The flashlight is always brightest in the rooms that you can see clearly in. It gets annoying.

in the final game will there be zombies inside rooms where questgivers are?

Nope.
- Con

Hey Con! I absolutely love the Weapon Variation feature! It realy makes each gameplay different because of all the different options. I just have a couple suggestions that I at least want you to consider (:
Sniper Variations:
Combat: Higher fire rate, less damage
.50 cal/High Caliber: Lower fire rate, more damage
Automatics (Im talking about LMGs)
Belt-fed: Higher magazine count

As you can see some are just renaming the variations properly for some weapons. I also wanted to point out that for the only sniper in game so far (M24) there is a Scoped variation.. which is kinda contradicting considering Snipers are already scoped. So I was thinking of changing the Scoped variation for the sniper to Higher Magnification or 12x Optics or something to signify the scope is “stronger” resulting in better accuracy! Thanks for at least reading this Con! Great job so far!!

From the comment posting guidelines:
- Don’t leave suggestions.
I appreciate that you want to contribute, but I’ve got plenty of ideas of my own, thanks.
- Con

Con when the games finished if ur being chased by zombies in the street then run into a building will the zombies follow you in?

They’re unable to operate doors.
- Con

‘Ey Con, very awesome Alpha! I was just wondering, is there any code for the kevlar vest? ‘Cause I have tried lots of things, and best thing I got is the army helmet… :/

Hey Con, I have been a fan of the last stand games since the first one. You do a great job. And when I keep thinking you are just one person and don’t have anyone helping you, that is amazing. I am starting to take programming classes at my school. Which language do you use for tls? I am currently learning java and it is my goal one day to be able to make a game as awesome as yours.

Good for you! Flash has it’s own scripting language called Actionscript, it’s very very similar to Javascript. But honestly, any programming language is a good base to learn other languages. Stick at it.
- Con

The Medusa is about the coolest damn revolver, ever. It can fire any .357 bore round, so 9mm Glisssenti, 9mm Parabellum, 9mm Kurz, .38 Special, .357 Magnum, etc. 24 total, I believe? It works because it’s extractor springs hook into the extractor groove of an automatic cartridge as well as the rim of a revolver round. It was disctontinued a little while back though, due to production issues.

The Ruger New Vaquero is just a cowboy gun, so it doesn’t need a rim to extract.

yeah what is the code to the kevlar vest
not trying to sound like a dick or anything but i like to restart time to time because i get to level 40 fast P.S great work on the game con

About the previous comment, I looked at the guide lines AFTER I sent it sorry! But I have a question this time!! OH MYS GOD!
In the final game, will zombies continue to grow stronger as they do in the Beta? Because it kills the fun of mowing down zombies, because it will get to the point ingame where you won’t be able to do anything because the zombies are overpowered… IF you kept that feature in..

There’ll be a cap to how strong they get.
- Con

On my last comment When i wass talking about other games i was talking about the other last stand games. and it is interuptable but u have to shove. Now enough about that i was wondering if you were going to put some older guns in like a thompson or a garand. Awesome game by the way everytime i play it it just keeps getting better.

Could any one tell me how you use grenades?

I can. You can’t.
- Con

Con don’t you think it would be cool if somebody made fake journal entrys filled with zombie action be cool?

Check out this book: http://www.amazon.com/Zombies-Record-Infection-Don-Roff/dp/0811871002
- Con

I just saw a Kitchen Knife that was Damaged, then I saw one that was Dull. Is there supposed to be both variants?

Yep.
- Con

Woah! It’s been a while since I been here; I didn’t know what to expect in the new alpha, but it wasn’t this! I couldn’t have guessed it would be this awesome! it is a new suprise every time
yay con I am going to play.

And holy crap! I just read the comments And you put a katana in like I suggested in the last alpha! hot sh!t!! You really do care!

You did? Good work.
- Con

Hey Con thanks for the support. Like I said I’m learning java in school, and I’m even working on trying to teach myself c++. Once again thanks for the awesome games and all the alphas they are all amazing.

p.s.s.s.s. I just realized that the chainsaw indeed does consume fuel, it just takes a while. My B

theres no animation for reloading though (idk if theres suposed to be)

Yeah, haven’t got around to that animation yet.
- Con

is it common for all guns to shoot slower(even in an empty room) or does it just mean my computer is retarded?

Might be your computer, but how long had you been playing for? Was it slow from when you first started?
- Con

Nice work. Smooth gameplay and great artwork. I have a feeling this game will be worth the wait, Con!
Something weird- fat zombie that are lying down don’t seem to have any backpacks.Maybe

hey tell me why apear a dorr behind me in the first romm if i catn open it nd please tell me some codes please con

There’s no room on the other side.
- Con

when i get t level 10 and i crouch with the flashlight on i get a 5 second delay on everything i do until i stand up and turn off flashlight. anyways i reopened internet after closing everything and started a new game and it wasnt lagggy but i turned the flashlight on and noticed the time inbetween my bullets fireing was 2 ta 3 times slower than shooting with flashlight off

That’s your computer. Turn down the effects in the visual settings.
- Con

great game!!
but i noticed that its nearly impossible to reach creeping zombies with the katana.
go on, your games are great!!

hey con, the chainsaw only takes 2 damage? I think the minimum should be 10, because if you stick your chainsaw on someone, and covers die in less than a second, and she has no film loading?

No film loading?
- Con

this might sound really stupid for a lot of people, but what exactly is the difference between an “alpha” and a “beta”?

Alpha is an early state where features are being developed. Beta is when the game is “feature complete” but still requires testing.
- Con

two things: one i see you updated the comment guidelines and two thanks for letting us see/play these alphas most game devs wont let the public know about what they are doing for the game until its out

a ‘heavy’ katana? the katana is a bladed weapon! And so is the fire axe…
Since the katana is now the most powerful weapon around (with the exception of the m24 military and the explosive weapons) and there are way more bladed weapons now then blunt, I will suggest the mace. it was around when the katana was the sword of the time, and you can still get some maces in weapon stores.
There are a few bugs, but I won’t say anything here. best of luck, con; I hope you do well with this!

Explained this before.
- Con

Did you take out most of the clothing from the early alphas, or am i just not finding them?

Just you.
- Con

The console key on a sweadish keyboard is “ö”.

I hate to overpost, but I have read some above comments.

I notice some guy was talking about the ‘oh sh!t’ factor of your previous games and how that made them great. well, I know how you can save that.

In previous tls’s, you had only a limited amount of hours to spend doing stuff before it was time to fight the zombs. I think to bring the limited time aspect back, you should make it so that searching buildings takes a certain amount of time of how many hour you have. after you enter this building, minutes are detracted from that amount from doing stuff, like searching, leaving and entering rooms, etc. you have a limited amount of time to do stuff, and you need some hours left over so you can get back to base; if you’re outside before nightfall, you will have to fight through the zombies instead of going straight to the base, and there will be a lot. it should be so that using your time incorrectly results in those ‘oh sh!t’ moments. another good way to do this would be to have zombies pop out at dangerous moments. if your inside a building, imagine how much you’d poop your pants if you were shooting at a zombie in front of you, when you here a crack and a zombie on the floor above you falls into the room where you are, right behind you!
To something like the time system I mentioned above, I would suggest playing ‘zombies took my daughter’. the difference would be that even if you get back in time, it ain’t over.

I hope you like these ideas; I have played a few zombie side scrollers before.

cheers to an awesome series, Con!

Yep. Got plans for this sort of thing already. As for the time restriction stuff, I’ll be avoiding that where possible, not a fan of imposed / arbitrary time limits.
- Con

hey thank you for the info about the room but that door can be used to move to other part of the city

Will the “battleReady()” and “fullAmmo()” command be avalible in the final game?Because I DO not want it to destroy the fun of it!!!

No, of course not.
- Con

i was playing 3 hour straight of this alpha and it never got boring main reason why was the the console code thing was so fun typing in stuff like giveItem(gasMask),giveItem(riotHelmet) and other stuff. Also Con do you have any code for the console script that give you all the clothing/Armor?Cause am trying to see if you could get the armor the riot zombies have.Zomg holy crap this alpha tha best

No, there is no command for giving all clothing.
- Con

How do I use the console and the commands? please i’m stumeped.

Open the console with the F1 or ~ key. Type in the commands exactly bearing in mind that they’re case sensitive, then press enter.
- Con

i think you should only do bigger dogs for the game cause a chihuahua wouldn’t really be that threatening lol

How can I use scope?Is it just for a good look?

It just increases the accuracy of the weapon.
- Con

in addition to not being able to pick up items when behind boxes or trash bins, when they are to near to doors, it is impossible to get them…

If its not too much work for you mate, maybe you could look into the Compound bow? It will shoot like a machine gun if you press “R” and Fire. (Repeatedly ofc)

Oh really? Hmmm, have to look at that.
- Con

sup, con? nice alphas, seems like your doing a LOT of work. i mean, i found out that just one guy was making this and im like WOAH! HOW CAN JUST ONE GUYS MAKE SOMETHING THIS AWESOME!? i was expecting like a whole team of guys or something. but it does explain the slow progress :\ anyway, ive seen a lot of comments demanding what the command is for full clothes, or if you will add it, that would be sooooo sick if you added it will u???

Yep, just me. No command for all clothing, might put one in as I have more clothing to test.
- Con

Hey im a big fan of the game and im eagerly awaiting this one but i dont get it what’s the difference between Alpha and Beta is there any difference and if this is a stupid question im an artard sometimes but you never know sry this is so long XP

if i press f1 appear “windows internet explorer” is that the command or is onlo for firefox

Gotta click on the game first, Flash needs to be the computer’s “focus” for it to work.
- Con

I was playing and became tired, so I slept. But then I thought that sleeping in the open would be dangerous. Is there going to be a penalty for sleeping in the street in the finished game? Also I noticed that the game seems really dark at 5:30 6:00 am (game time) and it should be brighter at that time of the day.

Uhh…whats the code for the compound bow?I’ve thrown away the 1st one by accident so yeah, what is it?

giveItem(compoundBow)
- Con

Why, hello there!
I’m sorry if you can’t post this, but I wonder if you will put more badass zombies, like some bigger, uglier, stronger boss at some points of the game? It would be awesome I think, and quite scary.
If you (could) run away, when you come back, it’s HP would heal or such, not to make it too easy.
And great job with the game! I’ve been trying almost all the alphas, and even though some guys say it’s boring -they don’t get the point of testing, do they?-, it’s still very entertaining!
Kepp up the good job!
PS: I’ll be going to OZ next month

Different zombies to come, yes.
Sydney or Queensland I assume?
- Con

I can’t open the console. Why?

You’re doing it wrong? Click on the game to focus it, hit the key. Console should open.
- Con

Hey Con great game. hows the competition going agaisnt binary space company. you may need to give them some pointers.

Who?
- Con

i also noticed, now that ive turned my volume up, the zombies make a distinct eerie breathing sound, when they appear, pretty cool, lool.

hey con, I know you do not want for the console in the final game, but what if you put the options “enable console”? and only those who played the alphas would know the codes, because then everyone who played the alphas, ranging have more, pleasure in playing the final game. I bet everyone would be happy! but if not for you, okay, we’ll fight! =)

Yo con, i noticed as well, that when you swing the axe at the zombies, and it impacts on them, it also sounds like its kind of hitting metal, you should make it sound more like its hitting some gushy meat-things…

Hi con.
do you remember that guy shdowlyday who posted last year on November 9th, 2009 at 9:06 pm? He asked if you could put in a katana.
He said he would be grateful if you did.
I bet when he finds out you did put a katana
in the game he will faint over happieness!

Oh, of course I remember every comment from the 13,000+ that I’ve had on here in the last two years…
Honestly though, I thought a few weeks ago “oh hey a Katana would be cool” so I made it.
- Con

Odd, the code for the bow isn’t working.Instead I get an empty inventory screen and a ‘undefined’ thing on the clothes page.

Later in-game, if you die would you turn into a zombie or just die?
Another odd thing I found in the TLS game is that if the zombie touches you you’re screwed on the first touch but before that (the current thing) you take hits. I know you have explained this but I’m trying to form a story line.

Sorry about the over-post

Doing it wrong. Zombie story explanations, gameplay.
- Con

Is there any wepon commad for ex. military, sharpened or suppressed?

Yeah, add the mod to the end of the weapon name like: giveItem(machete_sharpened)
- Con

#267- try reading ”day by day armageddon” phenomenal book in my opinion

I wish I had a talent with games. Maybe I’ll just make the music for them.

I smell bacon…

Yeah Noil Bear is right, ”day by day armageddon” is pretty sweet. Best zombie survival book out there

this game is taking forever so im pretty sure it will be the best of all time

Dude these alphas are awesome! lovin the saw and Dadder+scope!
P.S. Saw uses 5.56mm NATO ammo. and make attachments for simmilar weapons interchangeable like attachment transfer from M4 to M16 aswell most pistols use interchanging laser sights and such but suppresors and magazines need to be based on the caliber of the weapon like G17 suppresor To berreta but not to M1911
Great alpha!

NOPE.
- Con

How much points do i have to invest in to make open the locked doors and to talk to those 2 guys?

Zero. They don’t open. There’s nothing on the other side. Also zero for talking to the guys, they’re incomplete.
- Con

Hey con, I want to know when the next alpha is coming out.

I really want to know when. because i read the comment that said that you will put 3 NEW
things that will shake the game up.
Please dont delete this comment and please
reply to it bye. see you later.
-hampthecoolest

First rule of the guidelines: Don’t ask about release dates (of any kind). The reason being, I don’t know.
- Con

I do believe i shall stop playing all your alphas. The awesomeness is going to spoil the final game.

You really impressed me Con.
When i first saw your symbol in:
The Last Stand I, i thought:
“Tsc, it may be just any guy that made any flash game…

When i played Warfare 1917 and saw your symbol again i said:
Woa, he’s very good!

But…When i played The Last Stand II, i said:
Man… THIS GUY ROCKS!!!

And then i started to play Last stands like crazy, it took like 2 months, lol and then my friend said:
“Did you hear? Con Artist is launching The Last Stand Union City”
Man, my heart stopped!
It was one of the best notices i’ve ever heard in all my life.
I’m really impressed about your job, you really surprised me.

I’ll for Beta versions very ancious, while this, i’ll keep playing the alphas that are very good too.

-Pedro from Brazil

Thanks! Glad you’re enjoying the ride.
- Con

Could you do me a favor and tell me what the Military version of the M16 would be? I know it’s giveItem(???_military) I just don’t remember the full name for the M16 that you chose.

M16A2
- Con

hey iwas just wandering if i could use multimedia fusion two to make games like this cause i hve a copy of it some where this may be a stupid question but plz give me a awnser

I’m not even sure what that is.
- Con

ok screw my last question i need to know whats the difference between alpha and beta im sorry im stupid

Explained this one above.
- Con

Oh sorry about that.
i didnt see the guidlines.
Thanks and bye.
-hampthecoolest

No worries hamp.
- Con

i found some fuel is that to give to another surviour?

this is a fun fact con. today i saw a fat upbeat security lady. who holstered a black desert eagle.

Aweome new weapon system. Can’t wait to play the final version. Reminds me soooo much of Fallout.

That’s the idea
- Con

con artist you are amazing, my wife and i had a baby and guess what im naming it? con, i love you so much you are an ispiration your games aer amazing and my wife was in labour and i played this game instead of taking her to the hospital which my brother in law did im so happy your making this game i cant wait

And I spent today riding unicorns. AWESOME!
= CON

dude my chikk and i want to play but….the female butten doesnt work? is it just us or what?

Yeah, there’s no female option unfortunately. Too much time to make all the clothing twice.
- Con

Hi con,
wanna know how i discovered your website?

Here is how…..
7 months after playing the last stand 1 and 2
armorgames still did not have the last stand 3.So i finally said i gotta find out when it is coming out.
I went to google.com i searched for the last stand 3. I found a picture that said…
The Last Stand 3 union city 2010 Q1.
5 months later on march 12 i said hey where is TLS 3 its still not released yet.
So i went on google again and i searched
TLS 3.
Then i found a blog about it.
I scrolled through the comments the somthing
caught my attention it said…
Play the last stand 3 union city alpha.
I had no idea what a aplha was but i clicked on the link anyways.
Then it went to conartistgames.com
I was AMAZED by the website.
I played early alpha.
Then along came alpha 0.5,0.6,0.7,0.75,0.80,
0.85,0.90,0.91,0.92,0.92,0.94,0.95….and hopefully alpha 0.96 bye!

why does shotguns have unlimited ammo in alpha 0.94 and alpha 0.95?? please check the problem MR.con artist~!! by the way what is your real name??

Anyong haseyo. I’ve fixed that problem in my current version. My real name is easy to find, you just need to look
- Con

The katana and chainsaw don’t have a high enough dismemberment rate for my liking but that’s just my opinion.

Also, I know you hate suggestions, but shouldn’t a shoved zombie sometimes fall over or affect others that are right behind it? It would be funny and life-saving to have a short-range domino effect.

Hey Con.

I’m having a lot of fun mucking around with the current alpha, pretty happy I figured out the Gas Mask code, which isn’t a mission or anything, but I was wondering, when I tried to get a Military M249 using codes, it wouldn’t work : /

I read through all the comments here and had a look at the codes that you’ve given, and I can’t seem to get them to work, I’m basically just having trouble with getting a Sharpened Katana and Military M249

If you can help that would be awesome

Thanks for the Alpha anyway : )

Have a read through again, I’ve posted this. It’s the weapon name followed by “_military” or “_sharpened” without the talking marks.
- Con

Just as you said, I read the comments and I take notice that you did answer all my questions.

one thing; I never noticed that the saw uses 7.62 ammo, but you will obviously be changing that, in which case I have an idea.
the saw is a great .223 weapon, and I think there should be a weapon like that firing 7.62. I think the M60 would be a great choice, as it fires 7.62 and is very powerful.

Hmmm, might be a candidate, I was looking for another LMG though. But yeah.
- Con

FYI con, the XM8 would be 100% impossible to find anywhere since the gun was never finished

Oh ok, by that logic I should take out all the zombies. The Last Stand: Find Cans of Corn.
- Con

will body armor effect your health loss in the game when its implemented?

Yes ma’am.
- Con

hey Con i will give you a pony hahaha
but seriesly i will

Hey Con!
Just played through the Alpha again and I just figured out, the M249 shouldn’t eject shells,i mean, its already got the belt. Correct me if I’m wrong.

M249 is the first one. Some swearing in the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=697CfQX2xBk (NSFW)

Mine aren’t 100% accurate as you can see it directs the casings downward.
- Con

THE M24 RIFLE IS CRAAZY!!!!!!!

Keep up the good work con

Sick Game. Never disappoint. Now i know y the survivers are out. Umm when will be the next version? F.Y.I. Make a taco gun haha im playing. props to u bro

conartist could you help me?? ones there was a very very weird thing I CANT MOVE! what happend?? and my profile was gone!! oh my gash!! help me con arist thanks!~~~~
-tony choi yong hoon-

You might be carrying too much?
- Con

i get stuckt in the game and i cant save but still.ITS AWSOME!

Check my post in the comments about saving the game, there’s a step by step of how to fix it.
- Con

@ G1n032 the saw does have a belt but its quite different than what you think. each round is conected by a metal “chain” that disconnects from the rest of the “belt”. then, the spent rounds and the interlinking connectors from the rounds that were fired off get thrown out the other side.(not sure if i worded this right)

oh i dont know your taste in music but this song gose great while playing your alphas keep up the good work!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmjVsBqw4Qk <- theres the song
and this dosnt have to do with anything but im saying it anyways: i saw thoses fuckers last nite!! it was awsome!!

Man Disturbed have gone soft. Listen to some real metal kiddo
- Con

m60 is an lmg, in response to your statement. (that is, according to ‘the illustrated book of guns’ where I get all my weapon suggestions from. it’s a great book, although a bit outdated (like ‘future weaponry’ lol)) it weighs 23 lb.s

The M249′s firing mechanics look fine to me, Con. You plan to keep the design as is or are you going to revamp it to look more like the one in the video? And you have a reload animation for it already, right? At least from the previous TLS game?

@ post 330
The M60 as a 7.62 alternative looks good too (E4 model is the newest one now), but the law of averages might favour the M240, I think, even though its a bit chunkier to wield. And aside from the M249, I don’t think you could have picked a more ubiquitous LMG.

Didn’t take much to change the casings to get them to drop down, was just a matter of inverting the vertical energy for the casing particle when the M249 is being used.
- Con

Lol hahaha!!! Con is right 340!! You have no taste of real hardcore rock!

Hey Con, I know you dont like suggestions, but man, if you are going to add another LMG, you should thing about the PKM as well as the M60 or the M240, and since you have the XM8 you might take into consideration the XM8 LMG or the XM8 Compact variations.
Also I’d love to see the HK 416.
And @ >[)EA[)< Zombie King, the XM8 was cancelled, yes, but that doesnt means they werent produced, so in fact, it could be found on a military base.

awsome

Hi con, i was wondering whatever happend to dannydaninja?
He used to be the #1 poster of all time but now he has gone silent…
i wonder what ever happend to him. see you later!

I’m not sure. Probably busy at school?
- Con

Awesome update Con.
The Nade’s where neat, as was the new varients in weapons.

Con,
Any idea of an estimate of how many weapons you are going to put in (not including variants). Also I saw under I believe it was special weapons under the description I said helps with grenades and traps. how will traps work in this since your not defending?

At current there’s 34 different base weapons in the game. There’s more to come.
- Con

Con, Is the next update a Beta or another Alpha?(P.S. I like pie!)

It’ll be another Alpha. (P.S. I like turtles!)
- Con

Hey con just wondering have you thought about a X weapon? {not a suggestion}=p

Har dee har.
- Con

I killed Con! Sorry guys… he was turned into a zombie apparently. Well, he looked just like him anyway. Didn’t resemble him much after a shot him.

Lol zombie kid

hey con. i just wanna say that i love all your flash games. and you are a great artist. when i heard about last stand union city, i nearly shat myself. i have been playing all the alphas since you started posting them; and i have to say that this is the best. i love the new weapon system, and i actually took the time to play with every weapon variant. and there is something i noticed about this alpha, it seems like the zombies that are dead when you start, you know just lying on the ground, stay where they started no matter how much time passes or when you go in and out of buildings/rooms. is that new? because it seems like in the previous alphas the bodies would just appear randomly, and would change as you went in and out of rooms/buildings.

p.s. when the final version comes out, please dont hesitate to put it on newgrounds. it seems like it was months after crush the castle 2 came out on armor, that you put it on newgrounds. and i assure you union city will kill on that site.

Thanks!

- Con

Hi Con, what do the Grenades work for

Nothing in that current alpha, they work for the M79 and something else in my current one.
- Con

@339: Yes, it is called a disintegrating belt: It’s funny that you remember how it works and all, but not its name…? Great alpha, Con, I’ve never had so much fun playing ALPHA versions, let alone Beta’s. Keep up the good work and I’ll be waiting for v 0.96 and more!

@ 351
great thank do u feal better? cuz i dont now were stuck with this damn alpha (waiting 4 new one )

Sorry I’ve been busy at school, great alpha Con!

Good work Danny. Don’t let my stupid games distract you, mate.
- Con

on my computer i am unable to post comments anymore (obviously i am on another comp at the moment.) i cant figure out exactly what the problem is but when i click on the comments button on the main page as it is switching over to the comments all of the little sidebar adds slide over and partialy obscure the posts, and at the bottom of the page where the name, mail, website, and comment boxes should be there is only one large box with a description of the types of html you can use for like italicized, bold or underlined words. i would really like to be able to comment form my home computer and i have a lot of questions, any suggestions on how to fix this? i appreciate any help and understand if you cant.

What browser are you using?
- Con

Yeah! dannydaninja da hip hop ninja is back!

Hey, con! Why did the others alphas dont work???I want to play the alphas that have endless search

I took them down, too much bandwidth.
- Con

Ha! Try shooting zombies with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21IW__UMSxg

Now that’s metal.

hey, i have a question about the content of the alpha. i know an Ak-47 can have a scope, but I’m not sure the barrel would fit a silencer. I’m just saying that im not sure if the Spec-ops AK is real. but i do know an AK could have a bayonet (possible melee).

Problem with melee on the firearm weapons is that it’d need a seperate key input. Stupid Flash and no right click…

But yeah, I don’t know about the AK being compatible with a suppressor either, but then again half the weapons I’ve whacked one on probably don’t. I’m trying to maximise weapons here man!
- Con

Good Work. You realy have potential. Great artist, nice style, imagination, You know ur games, and expert at coding. Man if i knew ur coding software and how u made it i would die. Call 9-1-1 i cant breaf i cant breaf. haha but seriously if Playstation Network or Zipper Interactive seen that u will get 90x mulah. Great Job

Dude this looks absolutley amazing! It reminds me of a 2D Fallout 3. keep it up! can’t wait for Beta!

Hi Con, just popping in to say what a great game you’re currently producing. It’s quite interesting to see the constant development of the last stand franchise, perhaps one day you could maybe produce a retail game and host it via the ” Steam ” network.

( You should consider that, Ever heard of Mount & Blade? Two guys in a shed made it, now they have sold thousands of copys )

Anywho, I would just like to ask, with the weapon variation, would we expect to see actual custom stocks and extended clips on weapon models?

And I know this is somewhat a suggestion but for Sharpend weapons, you could simply make a small sprite that moves up the sharp side of the blade to give it the effect of shining and the like.

To wrap this up, thank you Con for these extremely fun games, I hope you’re sucessful with your carrer in years to come.

- RedBull

Cheers.

Custom stocks etc, probably not at this stage, it means dissecting all my weapon graphics. Will see if time permits down the line. So much other stuff to do at this point.
- Con

i am using fire fox

I get stuck on random places quite fast, when i reload the game im stuck on the same place, and i cant move, could you fix this? awesome game effing love it!

the thing with the katana is that it was folded steel and contrary to popular fanboy belief samuris cant jump of skyscrapers and survive and katanas cant cut through a tank. a katana would fall more under the category heavy sharpened. also thanks for the fire axe im running aound beserking and pretending to be a viking . also will there be a certain sneak kind of factor? fo example crawling up from behing and stabbing them in the back in stead of charging the flailing the knife around like your having an epileptic fit. the latter of course being what happens now. soory fo the long post but i really enjoyed that alpha and cant wait for the next one ;D

In this Alpha I never seem to get any lucky finds in the boxes, are they turned off in this alpha? Also, the boxes outside (bins, news stand) are not searchable any more.

Yep, they were interfering with drops. Lucky finds are based on….luck….so it’s possible you won’t find them.
- Con

Great game.

I suggest make a different danger level to each area of the main city. Such that areas farther away from the start point are harder. There should be some special places like an army base or a large facility with really large numbers or special zombies. Maybe a lab where they were created could have a final boss and a fictional weapon like a lazer as a gambreaker since you’ve beaten the game.

i’d also like controls for people with faster PCs like when the game starts there are options depending on how powerful your computer is . The weakest Pc can have 10 zombies on screen and the stronger ones can have 15, 20 , 23 ,25 ,27 etc

“Danger” levels depend on character level, areas accessible will depend on character level a bit too, so this’ll work out.

Number of zombies based on PC speed would totally break the game balance.
- Con

My ammo keeps changing at random especially with the .45 when using the M1911. Also if you don’t let go of the walk button before you move to another room the walking animation freezes.

Oh really?
- Con

If you you rapidly tap the walk button you can get out of the screen then it crashed. lol I think i’m going to try finding all the bugs in the game.

No offense intended if you take what i said wrong.

BUG, I dont know if it has ben reported but sometimes when you keep walking and change room you slide on your shoes…

What are all the commands for tls-union city alpha 0.94 & (if any changed) 0.95